A Challenger 2 Regiment with three Squadrons of main battle tanks would have an all up total of 56 tanks when deployed for war. Responsible for representing the Army Top Level Budget (TLB) within Head Office and outwards to relevant TLBs and dependencies, provides oversight of the Army Operating Model and provides overall personnel policy direction as the Principal Personnel Officer. All units within the service are either Regular or Army Reserve, or a combination with sub-units of each type. The British army is set for major change over the next few years following a restructuring review known as Army 2020. So while I have experience of this, and the food ol Gimpy, I have never carted them around In the field. There is also the fact that it’s not just about seating the troops but stowing all their personal kit and still having room for all the extra section kit and all the spare ammunition and stores and all the vehicle stores. While the US army will no doubt eventually start fielding thier new 6.8mm super calibre I think 2 rifle calibres in sections will remain wise. The Sniper platoon usually consists of eight sniper pairs or 16 other ranks. The post is immediately subordinate to The Chief of Defence Staff, the head of the British Armed Services. The problem the Army has is when it wants people to do two jobs at once in two different places at the same time . It is also suitable for Light Role battalions operating on foot. Ok that’s a long post – so short range air defences, and infantry use of drones later !! Home; British; AFVs; British AFVs. This means instead of giving every infantry unit organic protected mobility, i would even take the units that have such now this vehicles and would create own fighting units out of them which are then part of the tank troops. Vehicle tools, pegs for the troop shelter and bits like that that don’t live in the side or back bins usually go under the left bench, the right has the hydraulic ram for the back door under it and a big tray for the rations. Whilst the British Army has the capability there is no standing UK Corps organisation, forces being allocated through a number of multi-partite arrangements to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisati… Catering Platoon Each command is directly affiliated to the Army HQ in New Delhi. There are apparently 11 demonstration versions of the Warrior being put through their paces in Dorset. I of course being TA/Army reserve would have any idea how to be a Regular Army medic keep my medical competencies up etc as I do the job five days a week and not spend an inordinate about of time counting tent pegs. Aug 27, 2019 - Explore Evan Breton's board "Army structure" on Pinterest. It will include the Commanding Officer, 2IC, Adjutant, Operations Officer, Intelligence Officer, and Training Officer. British tanks had come a long way since the days of the Royal Tank Corps. There is a Commander Field Army Change ). Each command is headed by General Officer Commanding-in-Chief with the rank of Lieutenant General. This would see infantry platoons switch from two calibres (5.56 mm and 7.62 mm) to a single one (6.8 mm) for rifles, machine guns and DMRs. To put it in perspective I’ve never hit a target with 51/60mm and never missed with CG. The Assault Pioneer Platoon is usually comprised of 19 other ranks. Perhaps, but only if we reduced the commitment. Often these will be stored in vehicles until needed. As we begin to look towards autonomous vehicles, REME support across all battalion types will become more important. A squad is commanded by a sergeant or a staff sergeant. Storage space is hardly ample; the wagons were designed for blokes to fight from, not live in. With IFVs, MIVs and MRVPs, the British Army will have a range of vehicles that can each carry a full section or 9 soldiers. Major Units are regiment or battalion-sized with minor units being smaller, either company sized sub-units or platoons. For what it’s worth, I think it would be good to have a rotating other-arms presence. In Platoon HQs that have 9 soldiers, the same structure would be adopted, providing an additional machine gun and designated marksman rifle. 1 Combat Support battalion. Is that a “firmed-up” concept or is it still at the level of general discussion and possibilities? Does it have to be infantry? In a trentch or a building 5.56mm belt feds are superb. With a smaller army limited to just 82,000 soldiers, the organisational structure and number of personnel within individual units starts to become very important. Beckett (eds. Battalion HQ will usually be comprised of 6 officers + 10 other ranks. Contrarily, in my experience the ‘Gaaards’ are very proud of their role and it forms an important part of their ethos, setting them apart from the rest – after all, they haven’t much else to boast about! The command structure is hierarchical with divisions and brigades responsible for administering groupings of smaller units. Manage, administer and assure Service Complains and deliver and assure Army Individual Development - all in order to deliver the Army's personnel support. This would increase the size of fighting infantry men in the bataillons heavily so that they become numerically sufficient enough for infantry combat and would protect them to become mech-infantry only troops. I really like your idea of sharing public duties! Commando Battalion (joint para/RM group) Are ~1,200 troops really needed?? Either way, this creates a requirement for 1 officer + 23 other ranks. Provost Staff If it’s not can we at least work round it by concentrating on fire and manoeuvre? I basically used six as a starting point in the interests of standardization because six dismounts seems to be where heavy IFV’s are heading and so a six man section seems rational unless you’re happy to play musical chairs on arrival and it means you can task one section in a vehicle; presuming you can pull one guy out of the turret you max out at 28 dismounts which is the traditional platoon size. Officially, Warrior carries three on the left bench and four on the slightly longer right bench. Lead by Commander Field Army, Lieutenant General Ivan Jones CB, Field Army is responsible for generating and preparing forces for current and contingency operations. a crew of three (driver, gunner and commander) plus six dismounts. The Army overall is about 5000 under authorised strength and an increase to about 7000 under strength does not seem a good change. While the UK’s Warrior previously accommodated three crew plus seven dismounts, after has been upgraded, the need to stow 40mm cased-telescoped cannon ammunition is expected to reduce dismounted section carrying capacity to six. Light Aid Detachment Other ranks are the enlisted soldiers of the army. The British Army’s 2019 recruitment drive caused a stir when it launched with ads featuring ‘me me me millennials’, ‘class clowns’, ‘snowflakes’ and ‘phone zombies’. firepower and protection yes (which would possibly be over kill), but at the expense of a massive logistical footprint. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Of course, there will always be exceptions, be you Regular or Reserve, but to dismiss them as second-rate soldiers is unfounded and outdated. This is followed at the brigade level at which point the support scale starts to really kick in. The Army is a large organization, made up of many different branches and groups. Platoons moving around the battlefield in MIVs may additionally get the 30 mm M230LF chain gun (the same light cannon used in the Apache attack helicopter). ),The Oxford Illustrated History of the British Army . Increased use of the reserves suggests to me that government wants to underpin our foreign adventures on the cheap and at the expense of the regular army. This option maximises dismounted mass. 02 – Infantry Platoons built around 36 soldiers It’s more the lack of balance than PD itself. On the LMG, I am sooo old that the “LMG” imteained on the in the RN was the 7.62 version of the Bren ! Public duties are “despised” and “don’t help … Guards recruitment” – really? @UKLP I fully agree that the infantry platoon needs a manpower uplift. It could be the primary weapon and role of squaddie per section to be the grenadier. Their ranks indicate that they hold positions of authority, granted through a commission - a formal document of appointment signed by the monarch. There are three regular battalions, 1, 2 and 3 Para. As a bonus I thought that a closer relationship with reserves at battalion might serve as a nice middle ground, with regulars perhaps choosing that as way out of the service as well as for reserves finding it a way in. Ideally infantry should be carried in tracked IFVs or wheeled MIVs, but even light PMVs are preferable to MAN trucks and Land-Rovers that offer no protection. Lynx can carry 8 dismounts and would allow us to really increase the mass of the armored infantry withot adding to vehicle numbers in any significant way. It allows Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) to be generated quickly. If Warrior was to go, is there a reason for not looking at the KF41 Lynx rather than Ajax? The Parachute regiment The airborne regiment of the British army. Why are we tethering ourselves to four? In addition, each section now has an organic 7.62 mm L7A2 GPMG gunner plus a designated marksman with the 7.62 mm L129A1 Sharpshooter rifle. If they are vehicle commanders of two of the four section vehicles then when they dismount their vehicle gunner will have double workload. Do we have to acknowledge the British Army lacks mass on any scale and that includes the dismounted close combat platoon ? That will make a massive difference. For context I’ve remembered where my TA train of thought originated, it was during the general discussion on strike brigades and a resurgent Russia. Service children are the children of serving service personnel but they also have a responsibility for the children of Ministry of Defence UK based civilians and sponsored organisations serving outside of the UK. This structure also reflects the fact that most NATO IFVs accommodate a total of 9 soldiers, e.g. What if you disbanded the reserve artillery regiments and added reserve batteries to your regular regiments? I was wondering how you would fill that gap as a matter of urgency. It is responsible for all Regular units, Army Reserve units and cadet attachment (ACF and CCF). It may indeed prove a good idea if explored and developed further but I don’t understand what problem you seek to solve nor what the advantages are: it will do nothing for quality of training, Reserve professionalism and competency, morale and retention or, crucially, deployability. Intermediate ( think 300 blk or 7.62 AK) type calibres optimised for under 300m for carbines and/ or section belt feds. I know that the manning requirement is already verging on fantasy but maybe pushing it a bit further could give your battalion valuable additional potency? With each Javelin vehicle requiring a driver and commander, t. As noted above, there is no reason why other weapon types and combinations could not also be used. The soldiers are the basic organizational structure of the army. A nominal structure of 1 + 35 soldiers is proposed. So to summarize it up: my suggestion would be to create identical infantry bataillons, but without any organic protected mobility. In the 1980s, BAOR armoured infantry units mounted in the FV432 APC routinely had 10-soldier sections. Sniper platoons use the .338 L115A3 rifle. Option C Platoon divides the platoon into three groups (or multiples) of 12 soldiers. Consider too the fact that soldiers are bigger now and less flexible in such cramped space, having bulky rigid body armour, helmets, belt kit and the ubiquitous daysack which did not factor to the same extent when Warrior was designed. Medics require a lot of expensive training and continuous clinical exposure to remain competent, in date, and able to operate in the complex world of modern combat medicine. The Army is controlled from the MoD via the following subsidiary headquarters and a number of smaller headquarters worldwide. Fantastic comments. To clarify, I don’t think we should be finding a person in the turret, I’m saying that’s where they’d have to come from at four vehicles unless one lies on the floor. If the light battalions have the current strength of 560 then 28, with the specialised infantry unchanged at 267, gives a total of 16748. I think we’re missing a trick with not using the reserve transition from regular service. All infantry ideally would then become mechanised infantry. CnC can be further rationalised across the whole unarmed force by having a single force structure around 1 HQ, 4 commands, each operating 2 divisions that hold all naval, land, cyber, air, space and command assets assigned to them and having a flatter structure. Mechanised Transport Platoon With each Javelin vehicle requiring a driver and commander, this creates a headcount requirement of 1 officer + 31 other ranks. Britain's SHAME: Thousands of soldiers quit the army as morale hits historic low MORE than 15,000 soldiers quit the British Army last year as commanders struggled against falling morale. What capabilities are needed? If it did by any chance happen, though, I wonder if UK Land Power could tell me whether it would make a difference to his manning arrangements. 16 Air Assault Brigade are specially trained and equipped to deploy by parachute, helicopter and air-landing. In this respect, the number 36 is important, because it allows a range of groupings: 3 x Rifle Sections with 10 soldiers each plus a Platoon HQ of 6 soldiers = 36 total, 3 x Rifle Sections of 9 soldiers each plus a Platoon HQ of 9 soldiers = 36 total, 2 x Rifle Sections of 12 soldiers each plus a Platoon HQ of 12 soldiers = 36 total. The class system is prevalent in the society of the United Kingdom in the 21 st century too. It has also been suggested that rifle companies should acquire 81 mm mortars. This is in the interest of reducing the standing commitment to one Guards battalion instead of two. I was throwing around the idea of top slicing the TA and just plugging companies into existing battalions with the intention that it would enhance their professionalism and that they could pull through the three regular companies as casualty replacements. Though I strongly disagree with replacing the Woodentops, it is always good to see non-Guards have a turn. It also provides for London's ceremonial events as well as supporting operational deployments overseas. Such a doctrine would also change the very nature and character of many infantry units which would then become mech-inf and therefore their thinking, their self-understanding, their military culture and so on will change. . After World War II, the British Army returned to an eight-man section, and retained the same basic section structure. And as i wrote here in this blog in an earlier article especially the UK forces should be as multi-purpose and as flexible and mobile as possible, especially on the stratetigic and operational level. I hope so. My Army 2020 would see 1XX and 3XX each have an armoured brigade, mechanised brigade and motorised bridges. With a smaller army limited to just 82,000 soldiers, the organisational structure and number of personnel within individual units starts to become very important. Army battalions affected by defence cuts. I have done a similar analysis and share your view that a company’s optimal size is 36, after that we deviate for the following reasons: I have a company size of 180 that includes 4 combat combat platoons and a single combat support group (platoon), This replicates at the Battalion level so a battalion 4 combat companies and a single Combat Support Company. I see that you failed to include the Adjutant Generals Regimental Administration Office Platoon with around 20 personel. UK, Navy Lists, 1888-1970. There are pouches hanging off the turret cage. Whereas In a peer conflict you’re going to lose and need a lot of people very quickly and you’re probably going to find the army reserve faster than you’re going to find the regular reserve. I am also a big advocate of platoons having their own medic and signaller. Increased range and lethality for less weight will kill off 7.62mm guns in the fire support/ mg section / mg plt role. It is a genuine concern that the British Army lacks sufficient protected vehicles. The regular army gets guns and spare gun crews to keep them going 24/7. Another question I have concerns the mention in one of UK Land Power’s tweets (I do not use Twitter) that the BAE Rheinmetall Joint Venture could lead to the AS90 155mm self-propelled howitzer being upgraded to Braveheart standard. Personnel will primarily be drivers. Whilst I absolutely do not think that that is the right way to go, perhaps a shake up of public duties manning is in order? Details you may find in these British Army lists include the following: Name; British Army Rank | PowerPoint PPT presentation | free to view I think we need silly ideas and massive reforms, such as your ideas on simplify rank structures to fit with a much smaller army. I don’t understand what problem having a light, medium and heavy brigade in a division solves. (just to muddy the waters). I understand the need to count drivers and gunners in overall numbers, but in an armoured infantry platoon the actual number you put in the field is 28 because your vehicles might want to go away again, whereas (if I understand you correctly) para’s would land and fight with 36, so platoon combat effectiveness is going to vary by up to 25% by unit. Note: From Mid 2009 HQ Land Forces has been located at Andover in Hampshire having moved from Wilton near Salisbury. In the most recent issue of “Soldier” magazine, there is an item headed “New Warrior stays on track”, in which the proposed “new incarnation” of the vehicle receives quite a lot of praise , including the statement “On paper the platform looks impressive and offers a raft of refinements and upgrades over its long-serving predecessor.” These apparently include not only the new 40mm cannon but also enhanced mechanical underpinnings, beefed-up armour and better comfort for the crews. Boxer and Bushmaster. This is because Reserves are not expected or asked to deploy more than once per five-year period. This website covers the British Army and British Indian Army before, during and after the Second World War, in the time period from 1930 to 1956. Given that kit is cheaper than people in the long run, do we need fire firepower to make up for lack of infantry mass ? Oct 25, 2019 - WWII British Infantry Battalion TO&E diagram A sacred cow! 1 x Fire Support Sect: SC, two-man GPMG team, two-man CG/SPIKE SR/C90 anti-tank team and three-man 60mm mortar team. Great conversation going here, I am squished onto public transit in – 30 c temps in Ontario, so please excuse typo’s ! Anyway, having filled all the racks with ammo for the cannon and chain gun and having packed the rations away, stowed everybody’s gonk bag, admin pouch, daysack and squeezed the six dismounts in, you give them a couple of NLAWs (12kg, 1m long each), an ASM (9kg, 1m long) and hand the 2IC a couple of spare crates of ball and a couple of link, half a dozen extra smoke, boxes of cyalumes, handful of shermulies etc etc and you see that quite quickly it’s become so crowded that six dismounts is the absolute maximum. The Defence Fire Risk Management Organisation (DFRMO) was formed in 2006, to make a single, integrated, regionally based fire risk management organisation. Currently, infantry companies have a fourth fire support platoon equipped with 7.62 mm L7A2 GPMGs. This … Fired from multi-shot launchers, these can reliably deliver HE at distance. This means for the same total numbers as today we have a far more agile and deployable total force. The British … Starting Discussions About Defence Issues. This would truly maximise the boots on the ground and moreover at the same time the tanks in the open and moreover the overall agility, speed, deployability and so on because of smaller units sizes for both the infantry and the Bronegruppa Tank Units (which are complete seperate independent units) which then can assist them if the need arises. 04 – Battalion HQ and HQ Company structure So it is a very flexible number. This structure is ideal for counter insurgency operations where there is a focus on foot patrols and other dismounted operations. In Northern Ireland, infantry platoons were often divided into multiples of 12 soldiers. You have robbed Peter to pay Paul. The thing about 36 is that it divides neatly a number of ways 4 x 9, 3 x 12, 3 x 10 + 6, 4 x 8 +4. Your fantasy FF2020 is pretty much identical to mine, but I want three brigades of each type, for 1 in 3 rotation cycle. Her long reign was marked by the steady expansion and consolidation of the British Empire, rapid industrialisation and the enactment of liberal reforms by both Liberal and Conservative governments within … 3rd (United Kingdom) Division, based at the heart of the British Army on Salisbury Plain, is the only division at continual operational readiness in the UK. The new structure was confirmed by the then Secretary of State f… The Puma HC2 support helicopter, for example, carries 12 personnel, while a CH-47 Chinook can carry an entire platoon. British Armoured Regiment TO&E (aka TOE, Order of Battle or OrBat) Below is a schematic image of a late war British Armoured Regiment. This would prevent your rifle sections from becoming overburdened and also allow greater autonomy at company level, perhaps creating miniature battlegroups akin to French SGTIA’s. Army 2020, formerly known as Future Army Structure (Next Steps) or FAS (Next Steps), is the name given to an ongoing review of the structure of the British Army, and in particular its fighting brigades.. Responsible for all recruiting and training prior to becoming a fully qualified soldier or officer. The army operates 7 operational commands. Jed touched upon it earlier, rekindling Think Defence’s rather outlandish proposal to create a non-deployable ceremonial unit. Infantry platoons will typically be divided between four vehicles as they are at present. Medical Centre If additional, they’ll require their own wagon with the necessary extra personnel as crew. To take, and then hold ground is the usual answer. Many armies are adding Javelin mounts to their 12.7 mm remote weapon stations. 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