I'm more than happy to answer! Law School Admissions, PO Box 780, Notre Dame, IN 46556 For information on all degree programs at Notre Dame Law School, including the LLM programs listed below, visit Degrees and Certificates Offered. The faculty and professors are incredible -- though we just "lost" Amy Barrett to the 7th Circuit. I don't think people TRULY appreciate how much money that is. The purpose of the Scholarship is to recognise and reward outstanding academic achievement, contribution to the community and leadership demonstrated by a first year undergraduate law student upon enrolment to the School of Law, Sydney. Long term? Academic, Music, Art, Sports and Drama Scholarships are available at 11+, 13+ and Sixth Form. Through this initiative, the University identifies and supports high-achieving students who will most benefit from the Notre Dame undergraduate experience. Though, if you're dead set on working and living in the region you go to school, and not too concerned with landing big law or clerk ships, this is less of an issue and maybe taking large scholarships from schools outside the t14 may be better. That scares me, and it seems like it scares you. The Notre Dame Graduate Program student expense budget can be found here at Notre Dame’s Office of Financial Aid. Demonstrating Implicit Bias In their efforts to assess whether people harbor implicit biases, psychologists have used a variety of methods.9 Standing front and center among these methods, however, is the Implicit Association Test Agree with the comment about South Bend, though the campus itself is beautiful. What you want to do with your law degree and where you want to do it will be huge factors in your decision. I think I'm in a good position right now - I have several good options. The five Notre Dame freshmen who appeared in more than four games (Tyree, Mayer, Botelho, Mills, Lewis) were moved up a year to reflect their frequent participation. It's kind of the inverse of my "job placement elsewhere" argument. The argument about being able to find a job that you really want much easier than from ND or MN may hold some water, but after practicing for several years, no one is going to give a shit that you went to Duke. Hypothetically, if I was offered $120,000 at ND and full tuition at Minnesota, would your recommendation change? There has to be some reason that MN is outranking NDame. Everything I've read about NDLS fascinates me tbh. It's quite young (the average age of matriculation was 23 when I started, but might be 24 now). I guess I didn't realize how one sided my post is. I think ND will offer me at least a little bit more money. Demonstrate academic ability through: i. Both Notre Dame internal students and external applicants are invited to apply for Scholarships. Notre Dame argued that the fan's conduct was a her and therefore, Notre Dame owed a duty to her, or a fan in her position, to protect her from such conduct. Press J to jump to the feed. I think my Irish Catholic mother would have a heart attack from joy if I attended haha. I'd take it for free over ND, absolutely. I'm in a very similar position with almost exact stats as OP. The one thing that nobody seems to be willing to talk about is that even if you go to a t14 and go into big law, there's no guarantee that you will stick around long enough to pay off your debt. :') Based off of your post it seems like you really do want to go to Notre Dame instead. Note that students may be considered for both need-based financial aid and merit-based scholarships, but receiving a merit scholarship may reduce a student’s eligibility for need-based financial aid. I just meant to emphasize the different between what the schools offer me. Here you'll have access to information regarding the college and details on their Men's Soccer program like who to make contact with about recruiting, names of past alumni, what scholarship opportunities can be had and ways to start the recruiting process. Maybe not the best way to decide, but at least it is a concrete way to do it. South Bend was meh in my experience but if you can handle the cold it's fine for law school. Depending on what your first job out of school is, no one is going to give a shit that you went to Duke over MN or ND over MN when you're applying for a job down the line after years of experience practicing. Thursday - November 19 • • • 0 0 • I can't help but think it's because of the alumni network. I'd take the full ride and the knowledge that even if you don't end up with a 160k job, you can climb out of 50k in debt in 5-10 years on most salaries if you are smart with your money. If ND can increase their offer I'll go there. Does anyone have any thoughts on Notre Dame’s law school here? It's a solid school. It should be noted that annual increases in tuition and fees are possible. One of my biggest concerns is debt. Students pursuing a J.D. I think that's really the only fair way for me to decide. The Regina D. Merenda Scholarship is awarded to current sophomores and juniors with financial need who are involved in one or more aspects of Notre Dame’s Visual and Performing Arts program, including art, music, and drama. It just depends what your priorities are. Both of these programs are accepted by Notre Dame, and normally continue through all four years of high school. Notre Dame filed a motion for summary judgment, arguing that they did not owe "a legal duty to protect Letitia Hayden from the intentional criminal acts of an unknown third person." Go Irish! You can look up its numbers; my guess is it does way better placing regionally than nationally, though it's national numbers shouldn't be too bad. I think you should be going t14 in this situation. Those jobs pay so well because they're brutal. * Redshirted ^ Does not count toward 2021 85-man scholarship limit. In at Duke and Gtown, but full ride to UF, where I'll likely want to practice. I know there are some exceptions, but people can see through the bullshit. Lol. These scholarships benefit students from all walks of life. Then you get into law school and realize that there is this job that you'd really like to do that pays a little less but you enjoy the work and are fulfilled from it.. and you have the FREEDOM to take that job because you aren't staring down a ton of debt. Scholarship information may be obtained by contacting civic, professional, religious and other community organizations. Help with law school personal statements, application requirements, and admissions chances. Free up some money for everyone else. Inner City Scholarship Fund “Be A Student’s Friend” and “High School Award” Programs These two outstanding programs, administered by the Archdiocese of New York, assist students from archdiocesan elementary schools. Which gives you the freedom to take a job that, at the moment, you don't see yourself wanting to do or don't even know exists. I'll be applying, that's for sure. However, networking is more difficult not being in a city (especially your target city). Are you hoping on money from Minnesota? I don't know where I want to be after law school though. I'd rather get myself into a job that I like and get paid less and be able to get in there and start doing some shit rather than going big law for a couple of years doing doc review and making shit load of money and paying half of that do the government. James I. Smith, III, Notre Dame Law School Scholarship Fund. The Church, State & Society Program enhances the distinctive Catholic mission of the Law School and the University. Come by and grab a treat! I'm waiting on a few decisions from T14 schools, but I'm not expecting much scholarship money from them. Frank Carrano Memorial Scholarship Edit2: Just wanted to thank everyone for their input - definitely appreciate the outside opinions on my situation. Imagine that monthly loan statement coming in with over $100k on it. Offensive scholarship numbers: 42 The Notre Dame Application Which will end up being a whole lot more interest on my loans. Feel free to PM me with any questions about South Bend, Notre Dame, etc. I say take the money, IFFFFF you are fine with living in Minnesota and can see yourself there for a while. To me, those seem like places I'd end up in the prime of my career. I’m trying to narrow down my list of schools and I’m super interested in ND, so some perspective would be awesome. I do not have a geographic preference and I don't mind the snow/cold. You know you'd rather go to ND. Pursuing a dual degree will affect a student's funding from the Law School. I'm down for an adventure. I think I'm in a good position right now - I have several good options. Agree that South Bend is meh, but it's on the up and up and I personally like a town with a bit of edge. You mention a number of positives for ND and only one for MN (cheaper). It's a pretty good offer but I'd end up paying about twice as much ($110k total versus $55k total) to attend Notre Dame. Your employment opportunities skyrocket when you break the t14, especially at Big Law. This scholarship is offered to a current freshman. You have to figure minnesota to be less portable by some amount. Duke can get you that. It's particularly good if you have an affinity for conservative views and/or FedSoc. Huge concentration of brilliant faculty who have a conservative and/or Catholic bent. If that's your ultimate goal, then T14 is really the only way to extremely maximize that. I'm in a similar boat. There are some truly great spots, and a good deal of exploring. I've lived in SB for five years now, got my undergrad and Master's degree at ND. Notre Dame Law School NDLScholarship Scholarly Works Faculty Scholarship 1984 Matching of Costs and Revenues as a Goal of Tax Accounting Alan Gunn Notre Dame Law School, [email protected] Follow this and additional works at: Part of the Tax Law Commons This Article is brought to you for free and open access by the Faculty Scholarship at NDLScholarship. And I would make a trip to the TC before making your final decision, as someone who intends to practice here, I think that you may find yourself liking the area more than you thought you would. There is no summer tuition expense for the MGA program. Agree that South Bend is meh, but it's on the up and up and I personally like a town with a bit of edge. '27 . I've got a near full ride to a Tier 1 school that's right down the road and in the market I want to practice. It's just hard to justify that decision and leave an extra $50,000 on the table at a school that's ranked equally. Personally, South Bend was enough of a turnoff when I visited this summer that I crossed ND right off the list. Much more so than any other school near it in ranking. Edit: 166/3.8, applied to 22 schools, have T14 acceptances. 2:00-4:00pm, South Reading Room. But the number of options I have is making my decision really difficult. There are some truly great spots, and a good deal of exploring. Which t14 schools are you in at? Notre Dame offers a range of scholarship programs for students. I have a $35k/year offer from Notre Dame which I am negotiating. If you don't get the money, that's fine. They punch above their numbers on federal clerkships because a lot of their faculty feed students to right-wing judges. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the lawschooladmissions community, Continue browsing in r/lawschooladmissions. My main consideration is money, but it's scary taking the gamble of going to UF then having to try for top of the class. Which ones are you hoping to get in at? Which will make me decision that much more difficult. I know you said patent work. The law school is wonderful. Sure, I'm almost certainly not going to land this fabulous big law job where I make $160,000 and want to die inside. And as someone who went to UG in a garbage sink-hole of a city, don't let what people tell you about SB deter you. To be eligible for the Scholarship applicants must: a. If the school was closer to Chicago or just in a different (less depressing) area, it would probably be high up on my list. Students will be advised by participating clubs if any additional steps (e.g., interview, essay) might be required by the local club. Do you have undergrad debt and how much is too much debt from law school for you? If you would like to contribute to an existing scholarship or start up a new scholarship please contact Julie Davis at jdavis@notredame.org. But it doesn't have great employment statistics outside of Minnesota. Once you decide on those numbers, ask for them and try your best to get them. As a Catholic member of Notre Dame’s incoming Class of 2024, we invite you to apply for the Rene Lepiane Leadership Award. At the nation’s oldest Roman Catholic law school, Notre Dame Law School encourages students of diverse backgrounds to broaden their social, spiritual, and personal lives while honing their intellectual and professional skills to serve the good of all. I have a full tuition offer (plus the opportunity for a little more) from Minnesota. Thanks for replying. You can also sort the table by LSAT, GPA, Status and important dates relevant to Notre Dame Law School. That's something that no one else has brought up. I'm waiting on a few decisions from T14 schools, but I'm not expecting much scholarship money from them. I think our lines of reasoning are similar. University of Florida Levin College of Law UF Law Scholarship Repository UF Law Faculty Publications Faculty Scholarship 2-2015 The Revolving Door Wentong Zheng ... 1268 notre dame law review [vol. If you're shit, you're shit. I'm definitely visiting both schools before I make a decision - to see the campuses and negotiate in person. What worries me about Notre Dame is the $110k+ debt. Faculty Scholarship-Recent Books. Comments. But Notre Dame has a stronger network, higher employment statistics, and an impressive name. I can't believe so many people are suggesting taking out so much in loans in order to go to Duke. Please note that Law School scholarships may only be applied to Notre Dame Law School tuition. I also really dig their approach to community, though, so that's a big factor for why I'm interested. Notre Dame certainly has national reach -- the brand and alumni community is unbeatable. ND might be portable but MN is a strong degree in a decent sized market and a great city. That's a good point that I hadn't really thought of. However, I'm not looking to go to either of those places right away. Key Dates for 11+ Scholarships for 2021 Year 7 Entry - APPLICATIONS NOW CLOSED We regret that alternative Scholarship Assessment dates are not available. in English, or M.S. Good point. Maybe decide on figures upfront that you'd be willing to pay (if Duke gives me half off tuition, I'll go- at Gtown I'd need a little more). Which is why I'm most interested in these full tuition and near full tuition offers from schools ranked between 20 and 25. You can always find fun, enjoyable things to do if you look. Campus is also beautiful. I'm not sure exactly where I want to end up. Everyone loves Minneapolis so I'm sure I'd like the city. How to get into American and Canadian law schools. Mass @ 5:15pm. One positive you haven't mentioned for MN, and imo it's huge: they have a natural market they dominate. The Brambilla Family Scholarship was established in 2008 by Mary Brambilla McFarland, a member of the Class of 1957, Roxbury in appreciation of the education she and her niece Stephanie Brambilla Doyle, Class of 1994, received at Notre Dame Academy. But even if you do want big law, do you want to be relegated to HAVING to work that job for so many years to be able to pay off almost half a million dollars in student loans? It's well-ranked and well-respected. Notre Dame Law School is an academically rigorous program enrolling some of the brightest and most talented law students in the country. I adore Notre Dame and South Bend, and I came here with really bad expectations. All applicants for financial aid are considered for club scholarships. Obviously many feel differently. Notre Dame certainly has national reach -- the brand and alumni community is unbeatable. Graduation Highlights t Associate Professor of Law, Cornell Law School. It's definitely reputable across the region and probably the country too. 26. Even without mass scholarship money. This Essay was originally prepared for the Notre Dame Law Review's 2012 "The American Congress: Legal Implications of There's a reason burnout rate is so high. The College Board's Scholarship Search and FinAid! There's a bit of a college vibe, since the surrounding area is such a college town. I'm going for patent law and Minneapolis is a fairly popular city for firms/companies who need patent attorneys. If you have ambitions of going anywhere else in the near future, then maybe reconsider some of your other acceptances and weigh those. Either way, the decision is made for you. Press J to jump to the feed. I'm not okay with paying sticker anywhere but Harvard or Stanford and I'm not getting into either of those schools with my numbers. But do you even want big law? Notre Dame High School currently maintains numerous scholarships. dual degree with the MBA, Master of Global Affairs, M.A. Sure, being top of the class would help for a lot of job prospects, but I don't have a goal of working big law, and therefore the fact that I'll graduate with very little to no debt gives me options to really do what I want to do and/or not feel the pressure of finding a job that's going to help cover my loans. NOTRE DAME LAW REVIEW A. Help with law school personal statements, application requirements, and admissions chances. I'm biased (as you know from our DM's) but I say come to UMN. More is a group of Notre Dame alumni and friends who make annual gifts back to the Law School to support student fellowships. Notre Dame Club Scholarships. Funded by the University, industry, individuals and non-profit organisations, scholarships are available to prospective and current students. To me that says you want ND. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the lawschooladmissions community, Continue browsing in r/lawschooladmissions. I'm from Chicago, so it's a quick trip home and South Bend is a nice respite from big city life -- I can focus far better here. Scholarship and Tuition Assistance From Outside Sources. My advice would be for you to try your hardest to leverage what you have into scholarship offers. One such example is Rachel Qingling Wang, a Beijing native and the 2012 Li Ka Shing Foundation’s full scholarship recipient. He was the head coach for the The following is a list of applications to Notre Dame Law School.Use it to compare your profile to others by checking on individual user names. Charles Joseph Weis Sr. (born March 30, 1956) is a former American football coach. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Inspirational Leaders. Go ahead and withdraw the application from Minnesota. They're equal for all intents and purposes besides $$$ at MN and a better alumni network/ability to land a job outside IN at ND. What sort of job are you aiming for? long as each copy identifies the author, provides a citation to the Notre Dame Law Review, and includes this provision in the copyright notice. The chosen recipient, a student who has demonstrated leadership skills in her school and/or community, will be awarded a scholarship in the amount of $1,000 that will be distributed in $250 payments over four years. What are your goals that you need to be top of the class? I'm also a little concerned that the name doesn't carry as much weight as other schools. Of Trees and Books and Other Things. Very good school that has national reach. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Many students receive a significant tuition scholarship and/or living stipend. The subreddit for law school admissions discussion. Notre Dame or Minnesota. On paper, it shouldn't be a national school, but it's got fairly decent numbers nationally. I'm applying ED to ND this cycle, hoping for the best! I mean yeah, it's a great school and will get you nearly any job that you want. Simply, you could go to MN with minimal debt, get a job somewhere in Minnesota (if you're fine with that) and enjoy a little less stress since you don't have that large amount of debt over your head, which is certainly worth something. I know a few Notre Dame UG alums and they say that the older alums LOVE helping ND grads up, so I wouldn't be surprised if that attitude is also fostered in the law school. Will McDonough Scholarship – Members of the current junior class who participate on one or more sports teams. I know I want to do patent law and have the background to do it. 90:3 Under the influence of the capture narrative, the risk of capture has Where do you want to practice in the short term? Plus, you have the ability to get a job across the country, not just in your schools region, and a much easier time getting a job in the first place. But I'm also not beholden to accept that kind of work solely because of debt. Anyone who played in four or fewer was given the redshirt asterisk. How to get into American and Canadian law schools. Everyone tends to live in the same places, so there's a strong sense of community. Professors Emeriti-Teachers Eternal. Welcome to the University of Notre Dame Men's Soccer scholarship and program info page. Notre Dame Law School is the professional graduate law school of the University of Notre Dame.Established in 1869, NDLS is ranked 21st among the nation's "Top 100 Law Schools" by U.S. News & World Report and 20th by Above The Law in their annual Top 50 Law School Rankings It is ranked 8th in graduates attaining federal judicial clerkships and 7th in graduates attaining Supreme Court clerkships. I mean, it's different if you want to work big law. NYC would be nice, but I also like DC a lot. Certainly not impossible, but you can't go out to grab coffee with someone after class. Many private organizations provide financial assistance to Notre Dame students. I'd vote Minnesota unless ND matches. If you're a good attorney, you're a good attorney. Or like someone else said, free up some of that money for me. Interest in the hundreds on top of the principle. 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